An Earthwatch
TeachLive Project
Supported by National Geographic Education Foundation
QUESTIONS
from STUDENTS
Asked by students from
Valley Christian Elementary, The Harry Eichler School, Richmond Hill,
NY and Mullica Township Middle School, Mullica Township, NJ
| General Questions (students really did ask these). Discussions are from audio and teleconferences during the project | |
| Question: | How many different kinds of butterflies are there in Vietnam? |
| There are about 300 species of butterflies seen in Vietnam. That number may increase, since butterflies have not previously been studied here. Species of butterfly
can vary depending on the latitude and altitude. Scientists
estimate that there are approximately 15,000 species of butterflies
worldwide, and 250,000 species of moths worldwide. They also think
that not all of them have yet been discovered. |
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| Question: | How long does a butterfly live? |
| Butterflies have varying life spans. Once it has emerged as a butterfly the average butterfly lives from 2 weeks to 10 months. The species that live the longest are the migratory ones - like Monarchs. This is, of course, if the butterfly does not become food for a predator. | |
| Question: | How many species of butterflies have you seen while in Vietnam? |
| We are in the north, and observing butterflies specifically in the Tam Dao mountain region. We have seen a total of 83 species since our arrival, and a total of 1133 individuals. |
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| Question: | Why did you decide to study butterflies? |
| It was not my choice to study butterflies, the project was selected for me through my funding - Earthwatch and National Geographic worked out the details and decided this would be the best one for me to do. | |
| Question: | Is there a fear that butterflies might become extinct? Which ones and for what reason? |
I don't think there is enough concern about preservation and natural resources in Vietnam just yet. Projects like this one bring a larger awareness about such problems, but for the most part, Vietnamese do not know what they have, so have no idea what they could lose. Researchers want to study butterflies and other insects in order to preserve the forest. Butterflies are not the main concern here, the forest is. Without the forest, other resources will vanish. Butterflies are really only being 'used' as a measuring stick for forest health. While they are lovely and necessary, extinction is not the primary concern. |
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| Question: | Have you been catching butterflies to study? Which are hardest to catch? |
| The hardest butterflies to catch are the ones that fly high and don't land much. I have observed that the larger the species the higher they fly. We catch what we can but only for identification purposes. Once identified they are released. | |
| Question: | What significant changes have you noticed in your study on this trip? Is there any particular change that would be helpful in saving them? |
Because I have not observed this area before I myself do not have anything to compare it with. I did notice though, from the data charts, that overall species types have been increasing, while forest indicator types have significantly decreased. The new road construction is one thing that has affected the butterfly population. Because workers do not have education in proper methods of tree removal, large areas are just bulldozed with little concern for wildlife. Education is probably the best thing to bring a lasting change in natural resource conservation. These people just don't know how to care for the forest, and don't think how much damage they do when they just help themselves to cutting it down. |
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| Question: | How has pollution affected the butterflies? |
| I think I was more surprised about the pollution than anything here. The last 10 years has shown a giant increase in gasoline powered equipment. It appears there is no pollution control - and it probably doesn't help that everywhere you look, in every temple and pagoda, there is a continual flame and incense pot burning. Even in the countryside there is a hovering cloud of soot. Motorbikes fill the road, farmers burn off crops and other fossil fuels are burned without much regulation. To add to the problem, insecticides are used heavily on many crops due to increased pests problems. Pollution is TERRIBLE - far worse than I expected. Trash is virtually anywhere and everywhere. Insect life will always be affected by poor air quality, after all, if it isn't good for people it isn't good for wildlife.Butterfly populations have decreased widely over the last 4 years. Pollution probably only one of the contributing factors. | |
| Question: | How long will this project continue? Is it connected to studies of butterflies elsewhere in the world (we know there are studies in Mexico of the Monarch butterfly). |
| This project is scheduled to end next year, unless funding is extended. To have that happen, researchers must resubmit the funding request - then cross their fingers that money is available. If the data shows that the project has promise in some way - funding could continue but at this time that is uncertain. | |
| Question: | How do you know if a butterfly is healthy? What are the signs you look for? |
| Butterflies show signs of poor health mainly through behavior or condition of their wings. You can see from one of the photos I posted that torn wings become a problem - either due to age or due to poor health. Erratic flight behaviors are one indication of poor health, and the easiest to observe. Lack of food sources would also cause problems. | |
| Question: | Are any butterflies nocturnal? |
| No, I am not aware of any. | |
| Question: | Is there a particular butterfly that is more successful in defending itself against predators? Which predators? |
| Yes, the butterfly that is able to produce an acidic substance is the most effective in defending itself. I posted a picture for you of one that is emitting a 'yellow goo' - this is a sticky substance that stings when it touches skin - and if this substance were to get on another insect, or even a bird, it would burn. Birds, lizards, snakes, bees, wasps and spiders all are predators for butterflies. | |
| Question: | Have you found any new species or any older species you thought no longer existed? |
| It is always nice when that happens and yes, we did identify - I think three or four species - not previously seen in this area. | |
| Question: | What are you planning to study next? We notice you went to the Pantanal and have many experiences. |
| I am not making any plans right now about what to study next, but I do think I will want to do other projects - and I am not really picky. I like to study anything (a downfall of mine perhaps). I like to see the world and I like to contribute to something - some type of project or study, which makes this sort of project so worthwhile to me. Maybe I will try one that works more with the people, like a cultural study. If I do, I will let you know. | |
| Question: | Does the liquid material in the butterfly qualify to be considered "blood"? |
| Wow, that is a really great question! I just don't have the answer. Maybe you could do some research and tell me - then we will both know. I think that question deserves further study. | |
| Question: | Do the local people use the butterflies in any way -- ar they of interest to the local population? |
| If locals know of way of using something to make money they will do it. Butterflies are sometimes used in weddings - like we use rice or birds - they release the butterflies when the couple exits the temple, but this is very costly. Only the wealthy can do it, and it would take a butterfly garden quite a while to produce enough butterflies to look nice. Sometimes people will poach them to sell to a collector's market - many collectors - especially from Japan - are willing to pay very high prices for one single butterfly - but only if it is a rare species that they cannot get. They might spend thousands on one dead butterfly in good condition. | |
| Question: | How are butterflies used in art? |
| Butterflies are used a lot as a source of inspiration. Sometimes they will be caught and mounted in pictures - as dead trophies, but they do look lovely. Inspired art is the kind that people reproduce - either in paint or silk embroidery or in sculpture. | |
| Question: | Are butterflies exported legally (as we often see them in museums for sale -- are those real?) |
| Butterflies you see in museums are usually real, and they are usually acquired legally. Art galleries might be another story though, as regulations are not as strict. | |
| Question: | Is much of your work during the day or is it easier to study them at night? |
| We work mainly during the day. If we were studying moths or bats we would work at night, but butterflies are daytime insects and can only be observed during light hours. | |
| Question: | Is there any attempt to "farm" butterflies and grow them in captivity to study them? |
| Lien does some of that now, so yes. He often finds a caterpillar or pupa on a food plant and will collect them, in order to observe which type of caterpillar produces which butterfly. Of course, it is a long and tedious process and his facilities are limited, but he would like to do more of that. | |
| Question: | Is it easier to study butterflies or moths and why? |
| I think butterflies are easier, simply because they are out in the daytime. Moths can be drawn into an area by turning on a light, but that is not their natural condition - observing them in the wild under natural conditions would be much more difficult. | |
| Question: | What are the predators of the butterfly? |
| Birds, lizards, spiders, snakes, wasps, bees and even other butterflies will all hunt and kill a butterfly. Humans are the primary predator - and really for no good reason other than a trophy. We don't fit on the food chain with the butterfly, as other predators do. | |
| Question: | What is the main interest of National Geographic for this study? |
| National Geographic's interest is in teacher and classroom participation - professional development through field application and study - plus the distance learning aspect. Of course they are also interested in the overall nature study of the project, but primarily, it is for professional purposes that they fund a teacher to participate. | |
| Question: | Were there any other animals affected in the war beside butterflies? |
The wars that have occurred in Vietnam over the last 100 year period are not the primary factors in the loss of habitat. That might be surprising, especially considering the sad fact that in the American War in Vietnam so many chemicals were dispersed designed to destroy the habitat (to clear the groundcover). While these sad truths have done their part in damaging the ecosystems here, there are other factors that continue to devastate the forest. The main problem is the ever increasing population (Vietnam is home to 80 million people) - and the uncontrolled clearing of forest area for homes, farms and firewood. There is little visible wildlife in the forest around Tam Dao. Much of the problem is poaching - hunting illegally to either eat or sell animals. I heard so few birds while in the area, it seemed eerie. I saw no squirrels, chipmunks or other small forest animals. |
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| Questions about handling and identification. | |
| Question: | How do you catch a butterfly? |
You must use a butterfly net, which sort of looks like a fish net with a fine mesh. It is on a long extendable pole. When you spot a butterfly it is best to wait until they land, but some species don't land a lot so you have to be quick to get them in the air. You pass the net above them - then in a quick, almost jerking motion, you scoop downward and twist the net quickly. If the butterfly tries to fly it should end up in the bottom of the net. Then you grab the net above the butterfly and with the other hand you reach in and carefully take hold of the thorax - not the wings. Then you can bring it out to look at it, holding the wings apart by keeping your fingers gently on the thorax area. When you are ready to let go you can either just open your hand, or you can place the butterfly on something to get a foothold. |
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| Question: | How do you hold a butterfly without damaging its wings? |
You must hold a butterfly on the thorax - keeping the wings separated carefully, not touching them. If you rub off their scales the wings will not provide good flight any longer and the butterfly will die. |
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| Question: | About how many different species of monarch butterfly are there? How many have you encountered? |
| We have actually seen only one species of monarch here in Vietnam. I am not sure how many their are, but if you are interested you can visit the Monarch Watch website and find out more. | |
| Question: | How do moths differ from butterflies, aside from color? |
| There are some similarities - for instance, all butterflies and moths have four wings attached to the thorax (upper body). They differ in other bodily structure - moths have a thicker body, usually a bit fuzzy. Moths have antennae that look fuzzy, sort of like feathers. Moths are mostly nocturnal, meaning that they prefer to fly at night, or at dusk and dawn. Moths do not have the little knobs on the ends of their antennae like a butterfly. Also, moths have a more erratic flight style - while a butterfly sails through the air, moving the wings evenly. Moths rest with their wings open, while a butterfly will typically close the wings when they land. Most moths are not as brightly colored as butterflies, making them camouflage more easily. Also, moths spin silk and make cocoons - while butterfly make pupae. | |
| Question: | Will you be able to make a documentary on this special project? |
| No, the only documentary will be this website, or the blog - butterflies are just not exciting enough, and I am only a volunteer - not a true butterfly expert. I do plan to write a book, though, about field research and opportunities like this one for teachers and students. | |
| Question: | Is there is one butterfly species that is more successful at camouflage than others? |
| There are a few that have great natural camouflage - muliciber females because they lack as much color as the males. Also snake eyes and zebra (these are common names due to their appearance). They blend it to their surroundings quite well. Some butterflies also show the appearance of another animal, such as snake eyes, which will keep predators away. | |
| Question: | Is there a particular monarch that you favor for study. Which one and what does it look like (Is it on your site?) |
| Monarchs are only one of many species that occur in the Tam Dao forest. We have seen 82 other species besides one monarch type. Monarchs all look much the same, similarities are minor. I do have many photos posted - the brown and blue butterfly is my favorite - and the pale yellow moth is my favorite moth. | |
| Question: | What is the importance of the butterflies to the ecosystem. |
| Butterflies provide pollination for many plants and are a necessary part of forest life. Without their pollination plant production would decrease. Bees provide some level of pollination but not to the same plant types as butterflies. | |
| Question: | Has there been any mistaking one species for another because of similarities in appearance? |
| Oh yes, some are so similar it is nearly impossible unless they are caught so they can be observed at close range. Look at the photos and see how similar some of them really are. | |
| Caterpillar and Pupae Questions | |
| Question: | Why is a caterpillar harry ? |
The tiny hairs on a caterpillar are a warning that it carries some sort of toxin - the hairy caterpillars will give you a rash if you touch them. Harry caterpillars also tend to be moths, for the most part. Moths don't eat the nectar of flowers and plants - they also eat the leaves and stalks, even sometimes the fruit - moths fall more into the 'pest' category than the butterfly category. |
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| Question: | Why is a caterpillar colorful? |
| To be honest it is not really clear to me why they are so lovely, but it does appear that the males are more colorful than females in many cases. Perhaps it is for our enjoyment. Many birds also have bright colors - mostly in tropical areas. Color is often used as an indicator in nature that an insect is poisonous - and some butterflies are poisonous to birds - so perhaps that is one aspect. I guess I will have to do a little more research to find out more. | |
| Question: | How long does it take for a butterfly to emerge from the pupa? |
| It depends not only on the species but on the weather (season) as well as food supply. Some pupae are known to stay dormant for a year. Typically, though, it takes from two weeks to three months. | |
| Question: | If you find a pupa and want to keep it for observation, what is the best method? |
| The pupa must have large open areas and much fresh food plant necessary for its species. The plant that the pupa was found on is likely the one necessary for the young butterfly when it emerges. Lien told us that if the pupa is not hung in an open area - a very large room - the butterfly will be crippled; its wings will not fully develop and they will not be able to fly. I guess this was one part of the research at the beginning of the study. | |
| Question: | What is the difference between a chrysalis and a cocoon? |
| A chrysalis is made by a butterfly and attached by a single bubble on to the underside of a leaf or other plant part, hanging upside down. A chrysalis (also called a pupa) is shiny. A cocoon is made by a moth and makes is spun from silk produced by the moth caterpillar - and usually it is attached completely to the underside of a leaf or a stem. A cocoon usually has a fuzzy appearance, and some moth caterpillar even weave the hairs from their body right into the cocoon. | |
| Vietnam Questions | |
| Question: | Were there any other animals affected in the war beside butterflies? |
The war did not affect this area of the Tam Dao mountains as much as others. You should understand, though, that the war is not the only contributing factor to poor forest health; population increase and uncontrolled deforestation is a huge problem. Farmers who need bamboo for fences simply go to the forest and cut it down. Farmers also burn land to grow more crops, and there is little government control or regulation that stops them. Also, the general population is not being educated about how to properly care for natural resources. In the past there was little concern about preserving forests, they were more concerned with preserving human life. It is only in recent years that people have come to value any resources that the land might have to offer. The most noticeable thing about the forest is that there is little to no wild life. There are two reasons for this; the first is, people eat nearly anything they find in the forest. Many of the birds, such as pheasant, are actually endangered in the area due to this practice. Another reason is illegal poaching - in order to sell animals to the black market. Vietnamese people value animal parts as medicinal in many ways, including monkey and other wild forest creatures. Wildlife is becoming scarce - and again, there is little police action that prevents such destruction. |
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| Question: | What are the effects of Agent Orange and other chemicals in the area? Are volunteers in danger of its effects? |
| Agent orange and other chemicals were not used in North Vietnam. These chemicals do have a long residual life but are not a danger to volunteers in northern regions although effects of its use are still being seen in central and southern Vietnam, even after 30 years. In the south, residents still see birth defects due to the chemical toxins that remain in the soil and seep into the water table, as well as the vegetation. It is estimated that over 19 million gallons of 'agent orange' were used in South Vietnam for the purpose of destroying groundcover as well as many other dangerous chemicals. More information about 'agent orange' can be found at Wikepedia or Digger History. |
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| Question: | In the last 2 years by how much did the butterfly population drop? |
There are two parts to this answer - the overall part and the species specific part - as indicators. The number of species observed has actually increased - but this could be due to the fact that they are now being observed more, due to this study. Compared to the same time last year, when 49 species were observed in the area, this year's comparison is 83 species - nearly double of the species types observed. However, the forest indicator species have dropped in population more than 50% over the last two years, and more over the last three. Forest indicator species are considered butterfly not common to other areas of Vietnam - these are the ones that show the effects of forest health. When their population decreases there is indication that parts of the forest may be in trouble. |
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